So, you want to buy a GTO?

by Mark Sturman (GTO-MAS)

 

This is not the ultimate buying guide, just a few pointers to help you in the right direction and hopefully to help eliminate any heartache and financial loss. This post is made up out of my own experience and knowledge and that of a few other GTO owners, therefore this is a rough guide not a chapter of law on these motors. It does not include a check for every variation,more of an overall insight into these remarkable beasts. No liability for damage before or after purchase is accepted.

These links will help you to see what was what regarding models and yearly changes, there is another link somewhere which is probably more beneficial to potential buyers within the U.K. if or when I find it i will add it to this post:

http://www.daveblack.net/asp/3SiSpecs.asp

http://www.gtouk.com (click on Buyer's Guide)

If you think that you'd like a GTO but aren't 100% sure come along to one of the open events that are organized and have a chat with some of the owners and get a proper look at the motors and a better impression of what's involved in owning and maintaining one.

Also look at the following sections on the web site:

  • Events, for upcoming meets.
  • Technobabble, a section with a selection of wheels fitted to members GTO's.
  • Resource links, helpful contact numbers for insurance quotes and recommended workshops.

I'm assuming that a GTO will not be your first purchase in the world of motoring so I'll skip the bit about what car to choose as it's all relevant to money at the end of the day. What I will say is don't rush out and buy the first one you see, there's plenty to choose from, make sure you test drive a few, you can always go back. On this point and dealers won't like this bit but i would advise against wasting the time of private sellers for this test drive on two counts, you wouldn't like it if you were the guinea pig and secondly and more important the private seller probably won't allow you to actually drive the motor unless you have and can prove insurance to cover it, dealers have cover.

Okay, so you've found the car of your dreams, where do you start.

I'm not taking into account importing a motor or any paperwork involved in that part of buying, there are companies who do that and the SVA's that are required.

Ask the owner if any mods have been done or installed, is there any paperwork that shows where it was fitted. Quite a few owners fit the mods themselves, in most cases there is nothing wrong with this, but to be on the safe side ask him to explain the mod and how/what it does, if he is competent enough to fit it correctly he should know what it does and how it operates.

If the car has been imported ask if it has been de-restricted, if not the max speed will be somewhere between 112 and 118 m.p.h.[obviously on the track]

This is purely for buying a motor that is already resident in the U.K.

Be aware that not many of these motors that have previously been imported have much service history with them and those that do is mostly in Japanese. If you are lucky enough to have any history, which should be there on U.K.spec motors, make sure the mileage matches the paperwork to the speedo.

Check the V5[vehicle log book], make sure any relevant numbers match with the V.I.N [vehicle identification number] plate, this should be at the rear of the engine bay in the centre and visible, make sure the numbers haven't been tampered with or the plate looks as if it has been replaced, there is also a chassis number stamped into the bulkhead nearby, a motor may have a few engines in it's lifetime but it will only ever have one chassis number. The engine number is located on the front of the block, gearbox end, with an engine type number very close to it.

Ask for any M.O.T. documentation, if buying from a dealer you will probably get the full 12 months, if buying private either insist on a full ticket to be included in the deal or use this as a bargaining point to drop the price, this mainly depends on your own personal knowledge of the motoring world. Again all paperwork should match with serial numbers etc.

As the last paperwork check and before you hand over any of your hard earned cash, have it H.P.I. checked, especially if buying private, dealers will normally have this done before they took the car in the first place, but even then it may be worth having it done to satisfy your own mind. This will only reveal any plate transfers, outstanding finance or write off declarations whilst the vehicle has been registered in the U.K. This does NOT take into account it's life abroad.

Use this link, as well as H.P.I, it also has some excellent advice on purchasing from both the trade and private sellers:

http://www.newhpi.co.uk

If buying from trade insist on a warranty, the longer the better, this may even cost but it is well worth the extra pennies for peace of mind. If buying private there are companies that offer warranties on privately purchased motors. Before parting with any cash for a warranty read through the policy to clarify all the get out clauses they incorporate. Make sure that all major mechanical components are covered, the engine and transmission is not cheap to replace even at second hand prices, put labour on top and you end up with quite a hefty bill.

Have an initial look around the body, just a quick check with the eyes to see that every thing is or appears to be in place, we'll come back to the body a bit later. Obviously if something is not right in alignment of panels etc. forget it and move on to another beast.

 

ENGINE

Open the bonnet, the lever is at the bottom right hand side of the drivers side dash. Check the bonnet opens smoothly and both rams operate correctly, the bonnet stays open. Check all the fluid and oil levels, if you don't know what's what, ask the owner, much may be revealed here, he may well have it serviced but i'm sure that the majority of GTO owners know every check under the bonnet. Check the oil level make sure there's enough in there, excessively low oil levels in these motors definitely spells neglect. Have a good look at the brake fluid level and colour, it should be nice and clean and up to the max level. A low level may well indicate worn pads, dirty fluid will almost certainly mean that it has probably not been changed for a long time or ever. This is detrimental to the braking performance.

Ask the owner to start the engine, the reason for this is simple, if he starts it and revs the nuts off it, forget it at that point and walk away. These are twin turbocharged engines and as such should be started and allowed to run at modest revs for a couple of minutes[especially when cold] to allow the oil to circulate and get pumped around the turbo bearings, this will prolong their life. Whilst the engine is being started look at the exhaust emissions, there will probably be some initial vapour content due to condensation in the massive exhaust system but as long as this disappears it's okay. What you're really looking for is dark or a blue smoke indicating burnt oil, probably from either worn engine internals, i.e. piston rings, valve guides or the turbos. If everything is okay, it will be a white grey colour which will disappear as soon as the engine warms up. If starting from cold the emissions will probably only be evident from one side of the tail pipes, normally the left hand side. This is due to the system having one straight through pipe that splits into two rear silencers, the emissions will follow the easiest way out until revs are increased and the pressure will bring both sides into use. Of course this last part is irrelevant if the system has been upgraded and only has one exit pipe.

Return to the engine bay, the hydraulic cam followers[tappets] have a tendency to be a bit noisey especially on initial start up, not all GTO's suffer from this but some do. As long as the oil level is correct the noise should reduce soon, in most cases it will go away altogether but may return intermittently, as long as it doesn't sound like a bag of nails with no improvement at all it should be okay. There's plenty of info on this subject in other areas of the board on this web site.

Listen to the turbos, there's not much you can do here but they should not be noisey or rumbling, no high pitched metallic noises, though if they were that bad they would probably have packed in by now or disintegrated internally.

Listen for any squeals from the cam belt area, possibly indicating a worn bearing in either an idler wheel, alternator,power steering pump or even a worn cam belt. These can all be rectified at a price, a cam belt change will cost you about £200. [A side note from Paul Roberts - if the car has done more than 54,000 miles ask to see evidence of a cam belt change - this is extremely important and you will need to get this done ASAP if it has not been changed at 54,000 miles - another good bargaining point!]

A good visual check on the engine is made inside the Y pipe, normally grey plastic and running from the back of the air filter housing up to the fuel control housing. If there is oil in this pipe it is due to internal engine wear.

An engine compression check would reveal more but as the front bank of pistons only is accessible this may be difficult, to access the rear bank involves removing the fuel plenum chamber, about an hours work and the owner probably wouldn't appreciate you trying to take his engine to bits, though it would be amusing to see his/her expression when you ask!

For information purposes the compressions pressures should be as follows;

Non Turbo 185psi minimum of 139psi

Twin Turbo 156psi minimum of 115psi

Maximum variation of not more than 14psi. in cylinders.

Also as with any motor, listen for any out of place noises that could indicate wear or damage in the engine. In the center of the dash console are three gauges, the left hand one is oil pressure, check this one and keep an eye on it during the test drive, on tick over it will be around the ¼ mark, whilst driving it should be around the half way mark, certainly not lower with the engine under load. Whilst on this subject the centre gauge contains the turbo boost gauge, though not an exact reading of what's going on, it's a bit naff really, but it could give you an insight into what's happening with the turbos. If this rises from just above zero to max in a split second be aware, it could be just a sticky wastegate but it could be worse depending on what mods if any have been fitted. The other gauge beside this is the temperature level. With the engine at normal operating temperature[1/2 way] increase the revs a bit at a time and listen for any unwanted or strange noises from the engine. This may also be a good time to listen for any exhaust leaks, but they should be prominent at idle. Make sure that you check as much of the exhaust system as you physically can, check for repairs or corrosion and leaks, leaking exhaust gases will show up as black sooty stains. If you have to get down on hands and knees to do this, do it, exhaust systems for these motors do not come cheap. In fact I can't really think of anything that does.

 

BODYWORK

As long as you're satisfied with the engine at this stage, move on to the bodywork. This time have a thorough inspection of all body panels, corrosion is not a major problem with GTO's so any rust may be as a result from an accident or just something innocent but check it out thoroughly. There may be a small dent here and there but these can mostly be rectified fairly cheaply as long as the paintwork has not been broken. The paint on the plastic panels may be a bit faded unless it has been regularly polished, especially the wing mirrors and the rear spoiler, colour magic is excellent for keeping this in check. Red is terrible for fade, I know, mine is red.

Make sure the doors open and close properly and shut true to the body. Check the door doesn't drop when you open it. Make sure the bonnet aligns correctly and does not foul the wing panels and has an equal gap running down both sides.

Do a similar check with the tailgate, as with the bonnet make sure both support stays operate smoothly and it opens and shuts smoothly with equal gaps at both sides.

Inside the car operate the lighting switch and if it is fitted with "pop-up" headlights, make sure that they both operate properly in rising and retracting, also see if they are fouling on the paintwork or the side lights[jap-spec]. Make sure they also work on "flash". At this point do a normal all round lighting check including horn and wipers and any auxiliary lighting. On some models there are also lights for the mirrors on the sun visors, pop them down and see. A task as simple as changing a bulb is not always that straight forward especially if your mechanical knowledge is limited or your tool box is a bit sparse.

Whilst checking the outside have a good look at the brake discs, they should be evenly worn and smooth, not pitted or scored with grooves, also depending on which wheels are fitted have a look at the pads. If this is not possible, refer to checking the brake fluid.

Have a good check of the wheels and their rims for damage, standard wheels can be replaced but if it has an after market set it may be very difficult to get the odd replacement. Scratches and marks in the rims can be polished out at a cost. Tyres are expensive at these sizes make sure there's plenty of tread, have a good look at the inner edges as wear here may not be visible due to their width.

On the later models, Mk11 and Mk111 there were significant changes all round. The pop-ups were replaced with enclosed "projector" headlights, the earlier ones have a tendency to suffer from internal condensation but this was rectified on later models. The body lines remained just as smooth but were changed cosmetically. The main improvements were installing a six speed and stronger transmission and a slightly more powerful and better designed engine with larger turbos.

 

ACTIVE AEROS

If the vehicle has these there will be a switch in the center console just forward of the gear stick. Turn the ignition to stage one[one click] and press the Aero button, the rear spoiler will flip up, get out of the car and look under the front bumper and the front spoiler should have dropped, and dropped evenly, this may be distinguished by an Active Aero sticker or what's left of it in the center. Turn the Aeros off and make sure they retract. When on a road test these will automatically activate/de-activate at pre-set speeds [normally on at 50mph and off at 30mph - PR] if the switch is engaged. They can be turned off on the same switch. [In independent tests, there is very little evidence to suggest that the active aero system makes any difference to ride quality or handling, so don't worry too much if you've chosen a model that has no active aero system fitted - PR].

 

INSIDE

There is a choice of leather or cloth trims, and to be honest neither have outstanding wear qualities, Jap cows must get extremely cold in the winter! If it has leather and it's a bit tatty it will cost up to about a grand to replace it, unless you can either D.I.Y or have contacts in that business, even then it will not be cheap. [There is a leather upholsterer in the Resource Links section - PR].

The drivers seat is the electric all singing all dancing version with side and lumbar adjustment, but the passenger is not supposed to be all that comfortable. Oh well that's life! At least it makes them stay awake on those long and boring motorway journeys, to supply you with endless amounts of refreshments, sweets, fags etc. and the odd, "Are we really going that quick?"!

Apart from the dials already mentioned earlier the rest are self explainatory and all the dashboard instrument lights are detailed in this diagram so we won't go into that here. The one light I will mention is the "CheckEngine" light. This is at the bottom left hand side of the instrument cluster, with the ignition turned on all the lights will illuminate, apart from the ignition and handbrake lights these should all cancel after a few seconds. Obviously the ignition will cancel on start up and h/brake when released. Check the central heating [air conditioning/climate control] works through all ranges and the screen illuminates on the in dash unit. In the front left windscreen corner air vent there should be a small circular disc, this is a daylight sensor for your climate control system which works with the air con. These vents do not seem to be very durable and on most older motors they have cracked or distorted a bit, that's fairly common and nothing to worry about.

Check that both windows operate smoothly and also the passenger side can be operated from the passenger side switch. If electric retracting mirrors are fitted make sure they work, the switch is forward of the gear stick, between the "active aero" switch and the mirror adjustment control, check the operation of this also.

The carpet is quite good quality and tends to wear well. The individual carpets though seem to be varied, the originals have either been lost or worn out in most cases. That's not a problem though as we can supply you with a new[not original] set which are very good quality and of the same pattern as the originals, through the club.

Whilst seated check the handbrake freeplay, these are easy enough to do quick adjustment on but if the handbrake is worn it means a rear brake strip down to replace the shoes. They are housed within the rear discs.

On the dash, if the car has ECS [Electronically Controlled Suspension] there will be an ECS button. This has two mode settings Sports or Tour, it will change accordingly when the button is pressed, it will also illuminate in green in the dash panel. When working there will be a distinct difference in the ride between the two settings, the Sport mode will be firmer, it also incorporates an anti dive system. If the light flashes between the two settings it may be a broken sensor wire, these are on top of the struts under black plastic caps and are simple to repair. Other faults here may be within the ECS system or it's motor. If the light on the dash doesn't work it may be just a blown bulb. The other possibility is that the suspension has been replaced with an upgraded or after market set up. [If there is no ECS button, the car doesn't have ECS and the suspension setting will be fixed. Some non-turbo's and the "MR" model didn't have ECS - PR].

 

ROAD TEST

Don't forget that these vehicles are fitted with 4 wheel steer, active from 31 m.p.h. and permanent 4 wheel drive, oversteer is very easy until you get used to the set up! Don't be content with a five minute blast down the bypass, tell the owner that you would like to go for a decent drive incorporating different road layouts. This way you will get a better impression of how the whole unit is working, I'm not encouraging you to break any speed limits so that part of the test is up to you and the owner. You can check the handling and how it sits on the road, check the brakes and that they pull up firmly and evenly. Brake judder may be as simple as a bit of wheel balancing required, but it could also be down to worn or damaged brake or suspension components. The standard discs have a tendency to warp, this will also be defined as brake judder.

Keep an eye on the following, oil pressure, engine temperature and the boost gauge. DO NOT observe the fuel gauge as this may deter you from ever buying a GTO!

In the rear view mirror you will be able to see the rear aero and when it's working, if there is a fault with this system an "active aero"l ight will illuminate in the bottom right hand side of the instrument panel.

As with testing any motor check the clutch action, the difference here is a few hundred pounds more for the replacement! Drive off slowly whilst listening for any rattles or vibrations from the engine and gear box area. The transmission on the five speed earlier models is not as strong as the later six speed versions so check it out thoroughly and make sure that all gear changes up and down the box are smooth in action, not notchy.

With a bit of heavy right foot, acceleration should be responsive and rather rapid, if there is any lack of response here it may be down to one of several reasons but turbo problems may be the cause. If you are careful with standing starts the life of the gearbox will be lengthened, when the car has momentum then cane it if you have to, but constant booting it from zero will eventually wreck the output splines on the transmission. On completion of a test drive and for future ownership, allow the engine to idle for a couple of minutes, this is to allow the turbo bearings to come back to nominal engine temperature. They run at extremely high speeds and if the engine is cut straight away, it will stop oil flow to the turbo bearings which will then heat up and cook the stationary oil, forming hard deposits on the bearings and reducing their life span. The way around this is to fit a turbo timer [Clifford alarms can have an integral turbo timer fitted for as little as £50 - PR].

 

POINTS OF ADVICE

The above is a brief run down of what major points can be checked without the facility or luxury of a workshop. Most car dealers will have access to a ramp somewhere, if you can get it on one, do so, that way a check underneath can be made.

Make sure that when viewing the car it is done in full daylight.

Finally, depending on your mechanical knowledge and confidence I would advise having the vehicle inspected by a qualified non biased motor engineer, A.A,/ R.A.C or similair. Doing this will eliminate the chance of any dodgy M.O.T certificates and will also give you better peace of mind. The above information is obviously for the GTO but although the engineer checking it over may be very good at his job the chances of him knowing all about them are slim, but he will be more than capable of providing you with a qualified report on the mechanical matters. Bear in mind that this will probably cost so make it the last thing you do when you are certain of which car you intend to buy, and before any money is handed over or paper work is signed.

I have not dwelled on the safety aspects such as chassis and under vehicle components as these should be covered on the M.O.T and by an independent check.

Do use the web sites listed above for advice and information, together with what's here on the GTO you should at least be fairly well armed with info to help prevent you making a disastrous choice.

 

MODS

Here's a short list of a few of the more common mods that you may find on a potential purchase:

Naturally, the non-standard exhaust system, possibly with upgraded downpipes. Owners choose this route as not just an upgrade but it quite often works out cheaper than replacing with the Mitsubishi original.

Wheels, several variations are on the site in picture format.

Dump valves or B.O.V's.

Air filter upgrades, the most common is probably the K&N FIPK.

Stereos, the Jap spec radio is very limited in the U.K. and most people upgrade in this area

Boost controller, this is probably the best way to gain more power, when correctly set-up.

Added gauges in the dash area, the original boost gauge is not that good.

Suspension, not always obvious, refer to E.C.S. above.

There are others but these are the most common.

Once again I stress that this is not the complete Bible of buying a GTO but I wish that I had that much information at hand when I was looking for a GTO. If you have any questions on any of the above points or other factors, put a post on the board and it will get answered by either myself or one of the other motley crew that frequent this web site[assuming that we know the answer]. Good luck in your hunt for the perfect GTO. This guide will be updated when more or relevant information either comes to hand or mind.

Mark [GTO-MAS]

Last updated, 5th January 2002

 

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